Three Thoughts, Three Quotes: Rowsey’s 31 help Marquette crush Seton Hall 84-64

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No. 13 Seton Hall cut a 13-point first half deficit to one early in the second half, but a crippling 18-2 run from Marquette and 31 points from Andrew Rowsey powered the Golden Eagles to a 84-64 win.

Marquette came out of the gates with more energy while Rowsey (31p, 3a) scored his team’s first 11 and the Golden Eagles used two separate runs of 11-0 and 13-2 to build a 30-17 lead with five minutes to play in the half.

But an all-important flurry of seven straight field goals from Seton Hall to close out the half allowed them to cling to a 40-32 deficit.

After being edged by their hosts on the boards in the first period, the Pirates looked like they were sticking to the script of responding well in second halves by opening with a 9-2 run that featured Angel Delgado (12p, 10r) and brought them within a point.

But it wasn’t to be against a Marquette team that looked more eager from the start.

The Golden Eagles took over via a back-breaking 18-2 run amidst a five-minute Pirates scoring drought that saw them trailing 60-43 with 12 to play after the dust settled.

A quietly-efficient 14 points and 6 rebounds in 18 minutes from Ish Sanogo including a pair of threes helped keep his team within a respectful distance before Marquette opened the flood gates late in the game.

Three Thoughts:

For most of the game, Marquette beat Seton Hall at their game. The Golden Eagles held a 17-4 advantage in fast break points, and were +8 on the boards at one point last in the first half and shut the Hall out in second chance points for over 20 minutes. Steve Wojociechowski’s team looked up for the challenge and well-drilled on how to compete with the Pirates, perhaps most importantly, they looked strong defensively. The final vitals: -14 points off TOs ; -5 rebounds; -12 2nd chance pts; -19 fast break

While we’ve seen the Hall out-last opponents in the second half, this one had a different feel. Typically, they go back and forth with opponents before breaking them down in the second, but it always felt like they were playing catch-up with Marquette tonight. Between a different demeanor on the court to uncharacteristic mistakes from guys like Delgado, this one didn’t feel like other second half surges we’d seen; the Golden Eagles’ impressive 78-percent rate from the free throw line also doesn’t make come backs any easier.

Seton Hall couldn’t hang with Marquette’s offensive approach for the full 40. Markus Howard (12p, 3a) only scored four points until late in the game, which goes to show you just how good Andrew Rowsey is and the potential of this young Golden Eagle team; Marquette didn’t rely on its typical approach of raining threes and turned it over just six times. A two-day turnaround should be no excuse for starting second-best as Marquette just played at Villanova on Saturday while the Pirates were in Indiana.

Three Quotes:

Quotes courtesy of WMCA 570AM

Willard on the loss: “We didn’t have the same pop we’ve been playing with for the last couple games … we didn’t have the same quickness and the same pop. Even though we didn’t play very good, we still gave ourselves opportunities … Got it back it [to one point], then we turned it over two times against their pressure.”

On what went wrong: “They got a lot out of transition … I thought we defended well for the first part of possessions well .. but then we let guys get free runs and big offensive rebounds. We talked about that, those are killers. But they’re a good basketball team. When Rowsey gets going and Howard gets going, you’re in for a tough night.”

On playing with a target on back: “Yeah, we’ve had that all year though. We’ve been pretty up there all year. No one is pitching a shutout in this league, it’s just not happening. I would have liked to have played better at 42-41 we gave ourselves a chance to get back in the game, but then they made a nice run. We battled back so well at Butler and we did so many good things expending energy at Butler, we just didn’t have enough in the tank to make another run after that first run.”

Bonus quote on the loss putting onus on defending home court:Yeah it does, but that’s this league. If you have two road games and you can split, especially at Butler and Marquette, that’s a tough road swing. Two tough hard-nosed teams. I thought the crowd was really into it tonight. Hopefully we can get back some time and give these guys a well-deserved day off and then get back at it.”

  • Joe J

    A total embarrassment the way they lost. They did not show up and compete. They got what they deserved. Inexcusable for a senior laden team. Time to put down the press clippings and show up every game and play with desire.

  • Luis Duarte

    Time for a team meeting. lol

  • shu_92

    Queue the fire Willard pitchforkers who over-react after every loss.

  • Matty P

    Was hoping these kind of performances wouldn’t happen to a veteran group. Team had too many long droughts and when they started to put together a run they shot themselves in the foot with bad turnovers. Hope they take a look at the tape and then get ready for Georgetown at home.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Tonight, we were flat from the beginning. Hopefully this game is a wake-up call. Every time we made a run we had several turnovers or failed to box out a Marquette miss. Let’s use this game as a learning experience and bounce back Saturday against G-town.

  • Joe J

    Kenpom dropped the pirates 13 spots (from 18 to 31) after this debacle. A single digit loss would have been acceptable tonight. 1 no show game knocks a team way down which is deseeved.

    • Mike Walsh

      Noticed the fall in Kenpom, thought it was strange that Michigan State barely fell after a blowout loss at Ohio State and Seton Hall tumbles after similar loss at Marquette. Something is not right with that as Ohio State and Marquette are close to each other in Kenpom. Agree that we need to stop looking at press clippings and get down to business. That said, a 1 point loss would have been just as bad.

  • cali jack

    1-1 on a BE road trip is not a bad result. However,I thought the W&L would have been reversed on this trip.We got totally out hustled and out quicked tonight. Sanogo was the exception as he played a terrific game.Why does AD laugh/smile after a turnover/foul?Did you ever see MJ,LJ,KB do that?Marquette’s start to a 16-0 run shows KC is not a PG bringing the ball up under pressure.We have 4 really good scorers and the best balance now is more AD/MP slightly less KC/DR to balance out FGA. After watching this conclude we can beat anyone in the BE but can also lose to anyone in the BE.No games to be taken for granted.

  • PadrePirate

    Ah well. This team is best when hungry and with something to prove, like Marquette. They’re better off outside the top 25. A good whoopin should help, but I’m surprised these guys can’t bring the intensity every game.

  • True Blue

    Guys — Take it easy. It is one loss. How someone (Joe J) can say that they didn’t show up and compete is a joke. It was a one-point game with nine minutes left. The league is so balanced. Take care of business at home, win a couple on the road and we are all good. These guys are playing a lot of minutes. That is my only worry at this point.

    • Joe J

      Check out the rebounding and 2nd chance stats. Marquette was ranked in the 300’s in rebounding coming into the game. You think Marquette is 20 pts better than seton hall? Rebounding is an effort stat. They were beaten badly off the boards

      • LBP

        Bingo Joe J–also at start of 2nd half Hall out scored 17-4 on break out points– think that happens if a lot of hustle is taking place?

        • Joe J

          Spot on LBP

    • Matty P

      They cut it to one point with 16:45 left in the 2nd half, which Marquette pushed back up to 10+ points in a little over 2 mins.

      It’s hard to defend the team that they showed up or really competed with Marquette when they were down 10+ points for 17 mins of the game.

      • True Blue

        I guess they are just a bunch of slackers. Lazy. No heart. They are still just college students — not pro athletes — who can make mistakes. I guess Michigan State did not show up for Ohio State and Duke didn’t show up for Boston College. I can accept they didn’t play their best game but to say they didn’t compete is wrong.

        • Matty P

          I understand that they are still college students and these types of games happen. But watching the game and seeing the way they lost I have a hard time saying they showed the heart they typically would and that they gave their complete effort in this game. They were consistently beaten in every facet of the game. I can’t speak to the Michigan State or Duke games since I didn’t see them, but if they looked like the way our team looked last night I would have to come to the same conclusion.

    • cali jack

      The top 4 are playing a lot of minutes which is concerning.May be at the point where KW needs to give more minutes to Cale,Walker ,Gordon and Mamu and let them play thru their mistakes and hopefully gain some much needed experience/confidence.

      • PadrePirate

        I think KW has tried. During the OOC, they were getting decent minutes, but the second unit has really performed badly. I see KW tapering off their minutes now that the level of competition has increased. It’s a shame, and it is going to cost us. But, maybe he feels that he can’t do otherwise, since there is such a drop off in play. I don’t see how this team can make it on a 6 man rotation, nor with Powell only getting 6 or 7 shots a game.

      • ThePirateFan

        Those guys aren’t ready for major minutes.
        Mamu is closer to Rashed Anthony than a legit BE big.
        Butler had Walker scouted well – when KC got hurt they went straight to zone and Walker had the offense stagnant.
        I’d like to see more of Cale. I haven’t been upset with what I’ve seen from Gordon, either.

    • Joseph Attanasi

      I think you need to check your facts. It was a one point game (42-41) with about 15 minutes to go (approx.). From that point on it was no contest.

      Just because we won the first game of the road trip, doesn’t mean we should accept a sub-par performance. Losing is one thing, getting blown out is another.

      • Joe J

        Perfectly said. It’s the way they lost which was bad. Not the loss itself.

  • Ardy

    This shows us that we cannot only be the best team on paper SH has to be the best team on the floor also. Has this become about the seniors rather than about the TEAM. Whenever SH plays BUDDY BALL they will loose. SH had players wide open and tried to force the ball into double teamed players. KW said that he has the best shooter in the country but why does he only get less than 10 shots a game. Marquette finds who is hot and they feed them. Howard scored 52 last week. Can you see SH doing that to win?
    Thanks to Sanogo but that speaks volumes to the offense being out of sorts when he is SH top scorer. When was the last time he led the team in scoring? Players were overlooked when they were open and waved off. From looking at the box scores most teams put up more shots than SH. you need to shoot the ball to win with these high octane BE teams.

    • Mike Walsh

      Noticed in Butler game that the seniors ignored Walker when he was open on the floor, I think the development of the freshman has been slowed by seniors lack of trust in younger players. They need to sacrifice personal stats for the good of the team.

      • Ardy

        Mike, I don’t think it is a lack of trust I think it is more selfishness that other teams have picked up on tape and they just attack when they see SH not respecting their own players. You can see the frustration on some of the SH players(mainly Powell).It looks like KC and DR are trying to be the high scorer rather than play as a team. When MP makes a few shots they break up the team flow and go into selfish mode. That is why he rarely gets the ball in the game. DR and KC have had games when they took 17 shots and them only. Time to put it on the table. All these players know each other from AAU/ Camps and other places and when they see SH ignoring them they attack. Was JW the PG when St. Patrick won the State Championship? Given the chance he must can do something.

        • Mike Walsh

          Ardy – I’m not certain it is selfishness. I think the seniors feel that they worked hard and have been together so long, that they have to do everything themselves. Reality is that the season will not got as well as hoped if younger players are not involved.

          • Ardy

            Agreed because when the younger players have to step up they should do it will supreme confidence. They all have on SH jerseys just with different numbers. Everyone has value.Hope it all comes together soon.

    • cali jack

      I do notice that DR and KC seem to be often looking for each other and are frequent recipients of the others passes.This is not all bad but they should look to pass to MP and AD more often.MP is the teams best shooter and AD generates offense for others.

      • Ardy

        Commentator Donny ( a former NBA player) called the Hall out on a broadcast and said the same thing happened to him, and from that point things have gotten worst!!! Wondering how many games will have to be lost like this before they become the team they can BE

        • cali jack

          Looking at season FGA stats KC is shooting 41% and MP is shooting 48%.KC has taken +25 more FGA shots than MP.Who’s the better shooter?Obviously,its MP.KW has to instruct team that they need to get MP more shots and he needs to be less unselfish and more aggressive offensively.

          • Ardy

            Good points made. KW needs to give the green light like KC and Desi.
            We will have 2 C what happens. KW said the last meeting he was not included. KW makes over 1 million a year to correct this. He has 2 C it if we do. It speaks 4 itself.
            I re watched the game and MP did a good job on Howard.

          • Matty P

            After the Butler game I remember a quote from Willard around the team installing new plays for Powell, but since he was sick they didn’t have the opportunity to run them for him. I agree they need to find him a couple more shots a game, but I wonder if some of it is other teams looking to try and take him away.

          • Ardy

            I watched that Nova game. The ball rarely hit the floor. SH has to play tactical to win. MP is not sick any longer lets see what happens. Looking back at some of the box scores most teams shoot 10+ shots more than the Hall as well as more 3’s. We have to also score to win.

  • What struck me was how often Marquette’s ball handlers seemed to be able to beat SHU’s defenders on the dribble and drive to the hoop. That’s not something I’m used to seeing teams do to us a lot — and we didn’t seem able to do likewise on the other end. Are the Golden Eagles really that much faster, or was it fatigue, or something else?

    • 1968_bills_fan

      and Threes !!

    • Matty P

      If Sanogo could have offensive games somewhat similar to last night or Rutgers it would change the dynamic of the offense. It would force the defense to at least consider him in that midrange area and give Delgado a little more room to work down low.

      • cali jack

        Yup but I can’t see that happening consistently.Hope I’m wrong but don’t think so.

        • Matty P

          Agreed, I don’t see it happening consistently. But who knows maybe after that incident and team meeting it will give him a little extra drive for improvement.

  • Mike Walsh

    Didn’t see game, was concerned when I saw box score and Walker had fewer minutes than walk-ons. Does anyone know what’s up with that?

    • Matty P

      Walker came into the game in the first half, but to me didn’t look like he’s ready to play against this level of competition. Felt like he had a hard time keeping his man in front of him and looked a little lost on the offensive end. Kind of surprised the walk-ons didn’t get more time bc Marquette had a 18+ point cushion for about the last 5 and a half mins of the game.

  • VinBick

    I joked yesterday about this team going 18-0 in conference. Before the season, my prediction was 13-5 and then it was modified to 12-6 at the end of the out of conference portion of the schedule.

    Still believe it will be a 12-6 record going into the BE tourney. The best effort from every opponent comes at our band of Pirates. Eight wins should come from two wins against DePaul, the Johnnies, the Friers, and the Hoyas. Beating the X’s and Marquette one time along with the one win over the Bull Dogs and the one win over Creighton produces the 12 wins in the conference. A record of 12-6 in the Big East is not a bad year, right?

    If our guys lose to one of the lessor teams, an upset win against the other top teams in the league will be necessary. Is it possible to beat Nova once, or X and Creighton twice? Yes, but not very realistic. Go Pirates!

  • RonD

    Bad game, no doubt, but let’s get real. The team was on the road since Friday. They came off an emotional win @ Butler in which our top three guys each played 38+ minutes.

    As Willard said, they weren’t crisp on O or D. They were gassed, pure and simple. I’ll take 1-1 on a road trip to Indiana and Wisconsin anytime. That is the most physically demanding trip of the season and we’re done with it early in January.

    Back home for some rest and home cooking with Gtown coming up on Saturday. 14-3, 3-1. I’ll take it.

  • 1968_bills_fan

    I thought they just looked a step slower on most every play. Fatigue? Effect of colds?

    • LBP

      Everyone was dragging –particularly Deeno and M. Powell– especially on D. Too bad Walker could not step up and run with Rowsey but Kid is in another tiff with Coach. Walker had one minute on Court and did everything wrong–T/O; Foul; run out to create a 5-4 ( actually pretty impressive to accomplish this much bad in one minute). Of course Walker had to share words with Willard on way off the Court.

      • ThePirateFan

        He had words with coach on his way out? JFC, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  • shufaninva

    I don’t think the sky is falling. I hate to lose, but, I think Marquette, Creighton, and Butler are 3 of the most underrated teams in the country. To get 2 out of those 3 is a great start to our BE schedule. They def had an off night shooting, especially in the first half from three. This team can’t always overcome that. Ranked teams are falling all over the country. We were due.

  • Matty P

    Just saw news that LoVett is going to be out for the season with a knee injury. That’s a big hit to an already struggling St. John’s team.

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