Angel Delgado to leave Seton Hall, sign with agent

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In a shocking move, Seton Hall star forward Angel Delgado will sign with an agent and play professionally next season, ending his three-year collegiate career.

Despite missing out on the 67-player invite list for the NBA Draft Combine, which started yesterday, it sounds like Delgado will sign with Jay Z’s Roc Nation; Delgado posted several pictures on social media wearing the agency’s gear in recent weeks.

Even since the end of last season, overseas were always a possibility with multiple six-figure offers on the table, but all signs since the Big East Tournament pointed to Delgado returning for his senior year.

An All-Big East first team selection, Angel ends his terrific career in South Orange with 1129 points (11.5 ppg) and 1053 rebounds (10.7 rpg) — but without any NCAA wins to show for it.

The move comes out of left field even though Seton Hall’s staff did sign two 7-footers in recent weeks. Junior college prospect Romaro Gill was originally expected to redshirt while Sandro Mamukelashvili is considered more of an active stretch-four than a bruiser, despite his height.

One would think that the staff would have went after more graduate transfer centers if Delgado’s intentions had been easier to identify ahead of time.

Back-up center Rashed Anthony also opted to graduate and transfer last month, leaving redshirt junior Mike Nzei and perhaps incoming 6-9, 270-pound freshman Darnell Brodie to man the paint at the ‘five’ next season, barring any late additions.

  • Matty P

    After all the excitement of the recent signings it’s sad to hear that Delgado will be leaving. He will be greatly missed around the program for his energy, smile, determination, effort, and hard work. I wish him the best in his future wherever he does end up playing and hope he does get that opportunity to play in the NBA one day.

  • SHU95

    I wish him well, and hope that he has a sweetheart deal worked out behind the scenes like IW did.
    This stings, but part of building a program is developing a pipeline of talent so that earlier than expected departures are not catastrophic. While there is no direct ‘replacement’ for AD on this roster, the Staff did an excellent job of bringing in some high quality kids, and return a strong core despite this turn of events.
    I feel for Desi, Ish, & KC as it feels like they are always one departed player away from the promise land. We all want them to go out Winners next year because the deserve it…. Hopefully this does not sour that possibility.
    Looks like we are back to 2 ‘ships….

  • Hallbuster

    Soooo dumb. I feel bad for him. It’s one thing to leave if u will be drafted it’s another to leave for overseas. If he stayed a year he could have signed for 7 figures. Who is in this poor kids ear?! I feel so bad for him. Shame

  • fouline

    RocNation is a predator agency. S-T-U-P-I-D move. Should have waited. But, hey, good luck.

    • Hallbuster

      So dumb. Omg I feel so bad for him. Kid is getting horrible advice. It’s actually really sad.

      • fouline

        Hall,

        It is very sad. If we put our fan selfishness aside, he didn’t even get invited to the Combine. What chance does he have outside of wandering around in the low-rent world of international bball.

        • PadrePirate

          I think he could make a nice 10+ yr career for himself over there. I was disappointed for him that he didn’t make the combine, but in the end, that may have been a mercy for him. At least he figured out rather quickly that the NBA is likely not in his future, so it’s time to readjust his goals/career path. If Int’l ball is the target, I don’t see what he would gain sticking around SoOrange for another year (besides a diploma).

          • Louie Dee

            Int’l ball isn’t going anywhere. But at least sticking around would give him a degree, which he would probably be first in his family to graduate from a University.

          • fouline

            I think you make a case for a very practical approach for him. But since he has shown year over year development at SHU, his 4th year may have been a turning point for him and a career in the NBA.

      • Joe Schmoe

        The real world is full of sharks. Just think for every legit agent there are probably a dozen or so used car salesmen looking for a piece of a first contract, regardless of where it may be. Add in an entourage of family that are all seeing $ signs you quickly see how these kids get steered off the path. The NCAA should let these kids get paid already.

    • 1968_bills_fan

      I wonder if it is true that Angel signed with RocNation as the agent. Looking at their site and the type of people they represent, I think that Angel is too much of a small fry for them to be interested in. They seem to deal with people who have a 1st round/superstar status already and manage the fame and fortune. Angel was not even invited to the combine. They might have talked with him but only to put him down as too small-fry for them to deal with in order to pump up their status with stars that are full of themselves. Notice they haven’t announced anything. I’m still hoping it is all a rumor and Angle is still in play for coming back to SHU next year. And that point guard guy as well.

      • fouline

        ’68
        It’s surprising that no announcement has been made. Maybe AngelD has buyers remorse and well… second thought about his decision. Either that or RocNation is negotiating with teams as we blog and they will make an anouncement when he signs with a team.

  • Hallbuster

    IW talk some since into this poor kid. He is giving up 7 figures next year to be buried overseas. It’s so sad. How do these kids get fooled by these agents ??

  • LBP

    Angel certainly knows the territory–I respect his choice–he will always be a favorite. Truthfully , it is not the end of the world–just makes for a different Season–Hall will still be very good

  • Matty P

    Seems like this caught the coaching staff by surprise or why else would Anthony have left the program (not that he would have been the answer). It’s going to leave a big hole, but give players like Broadie, Gill, and Mamu a big opportunity. Hopefully these guys can get a decent amount of individual drills during the summer and learn on the job during the OOC schedule.

  • Matt

    Loved Delgado. He was definitely a fan favorite. His energy and will to win was an anchor for the team. It’s going to be sorely missed.

    I hope this nonsense with the girl friend talking to the agent isn’t true. That doesn’t sound like a good idea. But I do wish him the best and can’t judge someone leaving for 6 figures over seas while most of my generation leaves school with debt.

    It’s amazing isn’t it? At one point we were ranked pre season Top 25 with a chance at the #1 PG in the country and possibility of running at a national championship if he committed. Now if we make the tournament its a “good” season.

    But hell, I’ll be there with my season tickets next year. We have a good foundation. This new class gives me more faith with Willard and Lyons at the helm. Onward Setonia

  • Joseph Attanasi

    Just an absolutely stupid, dumb decision. Based upon his current skill set, I just don’t see him as an NBA caliber player. Wasn’t there anyone close to him that would give him honest, blunt advice? Or did he just not listen?

    • shufaninva

      Perhaps the blunt advice was that he wasn’t going to get any taller in another year, and that his NBA chances aren’t going to improve. His game is much more suited for Europe, so maybe that blunt advice made him figure why not start pro now, just not in the US?

      • PadrePirate

        Nor is his vertical leap or athleticism going to improve. Those are more natural gifts that can only be fined tuned a bit. I think the Junior Year AD we saw is pretty much the raw material he’s got to build a pro-career with. Your take sounds right to me–he poked around NBA folks for a month, and they likely pointed him to overseas pro-leagues. If the NBA door was “bluntly” closed, he did not see any real reason to stick around in college ball for another year. Makes sense to me now.

  • Thehall

    Called it when we lost to nova. AD and IW. Should of both stayed an extra year. Wish them both luck but not a smart move by either. IW would of been a lottery pick this year and would of made a ton of money.

    • SHU95

      I disagree (respectfully) in hindsight on whitehead… He clearly had a deal worked out that was not known publicly at the time… He got guaranteed money, on a team where he could get minutes with virtually no pressure to win in his home town. He played well and improved, and is one year closer to Big money and the security of s long term deal. It probably would have worked out either way (last year or this year) for him, but I can’t say knowing what we now know that he made the wrong move.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I wish Angel all the best, but I will really miss him. I loved his passion and personality. His presence on the boards will be impossible to replace. Hopefully Brodie and Sandro can give us some good minutes at the 5.

    • PadrePirate

      From what I’ve heard Mamu is not at all a 5, more like a tall 3/4. Think Brandon Mobley, who despite his size, loved to camp out on the wing. Mamu looks a little more athletic and versatile than BM, so we’ll see if the staff can help him build a post game.

      • Correct. Nzei is my starting 5 at this moment with Brodie off bench. Going to be small lineups unless there is a late addition.

      • Andrew Herbst

        I would love to see him develop a post game. In the meantime, I think Nzei starts at the 5.

  • 1968_bills_fan

    I don’t begrudge him going to make some money for his family and his future. Overseas, salaries for the best 30 players seem to go from $3M to $1.2 M so he may be just making over $100,000 a year himself. He probably wouldn’t raise his NBA draft status too much, so taking the money and not risking getting hurt is a smart thing to do. It seems like 4 year good players is a memory in college basketball.

  • 1968_bills_fan

    My guess is that we now have no chance of seeing Duval. He is certainly a one-and-done player and will either go where he has a chance at a national championship or maybe go pro directly from high school.

    • This has been the case for weeks… as reported on this site. But yeah, absolutely no chance now.

      • Joe Schmoe

        While you reported it on your site, there are some people that hold on to the “nothing is official until its official” sentiment…

        • I get that. People were definitely still holding out hope despite the staff being told that Duval is not coming to SH.

          • Joe Schmoe

            I was a little bit too, until we got the Walker kid. Its not about getting the best players available, its about getting the best players who play together….

      • 1968_bills_fan

        I am not so sure that “it has been the case for weeks”. I have seen much self-reinforcing talk among people who can’t have all the facts, but not much in the way of hard facts or reliable inside information. A valid speculation is that Duval was waiting to see what Angel did before making his decision and also did not want to influence Angel. Plausibly, Duval might have wanted to play at SHU rather than Duke because at SHU he would be the big star, playing near where he grew up, playing near the Big Apple rather than tobacco row, and would be playing with a friend from high school. They seem to be valid reasons for him stringing out his decision. We will see how quickly he signs now- it might give some insight on the matter.

        • A source told me the staff was told of Duval’s decision the day after his Duke visit. The same source told me the staff was informed of Angel’s decision, this info came an hour or two before the news broke last night.

          It’s not an absolute, but a source I trust.

          • Joe Schmoe

            Is his name “Happy”?

            (Blue Chips reference…)

          • 1968_bills_fan

            Well, I’m still looking for information that Angel has actually taken an agent. As of 3:30 5/11 the only people saying this are Chris from shuhoops (hi Chris), Zagsblog, and the central jersey Gannet paper reporting what they previous two said. Looks to me that there was a single claim and that has been repeated. Nothing from Angel’s twitter account or him otherwise, nor from an agent, nor from SHU, Whitehead or a teammate. I can’t see a good reason why it wouldn’t be announced officially or from other sources. There is always the chance that someone wants to be the first to get a scoop or credit for it and will “leak” some legitimate-sounding info to get creds in case it is about to happen.

          • Joe Schmoe

            Wait you mean to tell me news outlets place “first” over correct? NO!!!!!!

  • Next post on this site will likely be a roundup of available forwards on the market. Appreciate any help from all of you in that regard… I assume the market isnt great…

    • PadrePirate

      Anyone got Rasheed’s number? Or, my personal fav, Chier Anjou?

  • PadrePirate

    Any immediately elig. transfer big men around?? The little I saw from Brodie and Gill, they don’t look like game ready guys. Nzei is an athletic 4 but no 5. This surprise leaves quite a hole.

    Can’t say I’m happy for Angel, because it just seems like the wrong move for him, independently of the team. I really hope he’s not being taken advantage or persuaded by a silly girlfriend, as some have posted. Maybe his fam just needs the money… Still, you gotta think his salary ceiling just dropped about a million and change.

  • Louie Dee

    Where is Willard in all this? Does he even try to convince his playersto stay?

  • Louie Dee

    Where is Willard in all this? Does he even try to convince his players to stay? You stay one more year and you’re a lottery pick. This is a no-brainer!

    This crap doesn’t happen at Nova. Hart and Jenkins could have left after they won the national championship.

    • Just because a player leaves means Willard didn’t try to convince him otherwise?

      And Delgado is NEVER a lottery pick. He probably wouldn’t have even been a first round pick after a fourth year. He doesn’t have NBA athleticism and can’t shoot.

      • Joe Schmoe

        I am going to miss his rebounding effort though…his time on the FT line however, not so much.

      • Louie Dee

        The Post said AD hadn’t informed his coaching staff of the final decision. Meaning Willard isn’t part of the decision process, or he isn’t in constant communication, or he just doesn’t have that relationship with his star player. Who knows? But do you think Calipari’s players don’t let him know of their final decision? Lol

        How can you say “Never?” Are you serious? How do you know he wouldn’t be a lottery pick? You obvious have no faith in what AD can do in one year. In one year, AD made huge improvements, and became the nation’s leading rebounder and double double. So why couldn’t he improve on some of his weakness in one more year, and become a lottery pick? In addition, he would go into his senior year with the spot light on him, like Dunn and Hart, and strengthen his brand.

        PS. He can shoot when he takes the shot. He had a few nice shots at the Xavier game.

        • Matt

          I really hope that’s not true about Willard not being in contact

        • Matty P

          A lottery pick would be a stretch for Delgado unfortunately. Even Swanigan who was right there with him on rebounds and double doubles and has the ability to shoot out to the 3 point line isn’t even in discussions for a lottery pick this year. Another year even with modest improvements might have still only meant a second round selection for Delgado. His limitations on athleticism and size and the fact that he would be another year older would all be strikes against him in a draft where after the lottery picks most teams are looking for younger players with higher ceilings.

        • Cant always teach athleticism, and that NBA explosiveness is a huge weakness in Angel’s game. Hell, he even struggles against bigger/more physical D-I centers who won’t even sniff the NBA.

          Sure, he can hit a rare jump shot or two. I’m referring to the overall body of work. I guarantee you any scout would evaluate him and say he doesn’t have an inside-out game, which is key because he’s not a center at the next level.

          A below-average athletic four who can’t shoot is not first round material, let alone lottery pick.

          If Angel developed a long jumper and free throws in the course of the next year, MAYBE he’d be late first round, early second.

          • Louie Dee

            After reading what you wrote maybe 1st round is more realistic.

    • RonD

      Louie, c’mon. You think Willard wasn’t communicating with AD through all this? Despite what we all think, this was 50-50 since after the NCAA game when he said something like “SHU will be a great team with or without me.” Clearly he wasn’t convinced in his own mind that he was coming back despite all of our wishes.

      He would be 23 years old next year, old for an NBA rookie. Could he improve some things if he stayed an extra year– yes. But he could also have a career altering injury. So it looks like he is going to take some overseas money and probably have a long career there. Maybe he thinks that’s his best way to get to the NBA, playing against seasoned guys overseas rather than college kids.

      I wish he stayed for his senior year but who knows what the final influences on his decision were.

      • Can go back as early as the Rutgers game when Angel said “if I’m here next year” when referring to being 4-0 against them in his career.

    • ThePirateFan

      Get a grip

  • This is the same offer I put out on Twitter: Help me compile a list of available transfers/JuCos/seniors that the staff could hypothetically target in the wake of Angel’s decision.

    Top name so far is Cal’s 7-1 center Kameron Rooks (4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg), who was hurt for the game in Hawaii but is apparently looking at East coast options. Here is a preliminary list: Gonzaga, San Diego St, UConn, St Johns, Georgetown, Illinois, Iowa St, St Louis, Clemson

    • Fishjam

      Many players have already signed. They need a big body that can rebound and defend a big man and split time with Ish, Nzei and Mamu.

      Rooks would be good but there are a lot of suitors. I believe we were tied to Hans Brase about a month or more ago. Was a really good player at Princeton but blew his ACL on 2 separate occasions. He recently visited Georgia Tech and Iowa State so we’d have to move fast.

    • hallballyall

      Has Mark Donnal (Mich) signed anywhere?

      • Fishjam

        Yes, believe Donnal committed to Clemson. I looked up every grad transfer 6’7+ and the pickings are slim at this point. Donal would have been good and I really liked Jack Whitman, a 6’11 mobile center from William & Mary. I liked his videos and started getting excited then read he just signed with Kansas.

  • jfp1992

    ouch

  • LBP

    I am not saying that Angel’s decision ( and it is a 23 year old young man’s decision ) is going to make the team better ;however, I think the Team will be more athletic . I further think it will be a real fun Team to watch.
    I appreciate the effort that Angel gave every time he took the Court. Was he going to get more Athletic; was he going to more than he did this year???–doubtful– what is a compelling reason for him to return?
    So I am in no position to criticize his decision and I can not understand how or why Coach Willard should make the decision for him??? Altho I regret not seeing what may have resulted for the Team had he stayed, I am excited about watching what the Team may become. I truly believe that the program has turned the corner and will prosper.

    • Matty P

      I agree that this should still be a fun team to watch next season. The style of this team should be very different on the offensive and defensive end of the floor. On the offensive end I would imagine they would try to move to a more uptempo offense with a highlight on the guards. While on the defensive end they might have the ability to switch more thanks to the increased athletic ability and have the potential to have a greater shot blocking presence with Nzei getting more playing time.

      • LBP

        Matty P–
        I am actually excited about what this “new” Team can become– I will say it again, I believe M. Cale will be a super-star . I believe he (and Walker) are better suited to a fast paced O–as opposed to the O starting through Angel ( and no, I do not believe the 2017-18 Team will win more than if Angel had stayed). I do believe 2017-18 Team will be the most Athletic Team perhaps ever “courted”at Seton Hall.

  • Steven

    We will miss the heart and soul of the team. When IW left, AD filled that role, possibly with more passion than many in recent history. I thank him for that. Who will fill that void? We have new players coming in who can perform and make things exciting, but what upperclassman will take the reigns as leader? Who will play every possession, on each side of the floor like it’s the last? Because that is how Angel approached the game. That was never more evident than on the final play in the BET. Mental break downs hurt the team last year, will the upperclassman that remain, mature into leaders?

    • PadrePirate

      Good point. Over the course of this past season, we saw Angel become the emotional leader of this team (much like DG and IW before). I don’t see Desi or KC have that same drive/charisma. Ish seems quiet but may rise to the occasion. Haven’t seen enough of Powell and Nzei to know… This is another reason why a grad transfer PG like Thorpe may be important for this team, logjam or not

  • Matt

    Definitely a bummer. He was a great player to watch. Really have a hard time understanding the thought process here but I’m sure that there were many non-basketball related factors that weighed into his decision.

    I definitely think Nzei has to play at the 5 purely for the fact that he has excellent touch down low. I do hope that he can put on some muscle. I think strength is going to be an issue for him going forward.

    Another thing that is not discussed enough is Ish’s ability to rebound the ball. Before he got hurt last year, him and Delgado led the BE in rebounding. Desi can almost hit his head on the rim when he jumps so he will definitely be a contributor on the boards as well.

    Still have high hopes for this team. Go Pirates!

  • hallstorm

    Anything happening with the Jarreau and Gresham recruitment? I realize it wouldn’t help for this upcoming season, but they could be two valuable additions for the future and would make an attractive older sophomore class to combine with Cale, Powell and Walker as the ’18 class comes in.

    • Fishjam

      Elijah Hughes chose Syracuse and now we are waiting to hear on Thorpe. If Thorpe says no it’s possible we could push for the UMass duo.

  • Ben Suscavage

    No offense Chris, but you said Trevon Duval’s decision to go to Duke was “imminent” and that was 22 days ago?

    Delgado leaving is a rumor and you reporting it like a fact is not helpful. What’s the source? –It would be believable if he was invited to the NBA combine. However, he was not and he has a chance to come back to be a contender for Big East Player of the year, a ton of exposure and chance to win a NCAA game and possible run!

    I understand May 17th is the date HS players need to sign there letter of intent and May 24th college players can decide to remove themselves from the NBA draft and go back to school.

    Lets’s not sell ourselves short by caving into rumors. We’re still in it for Duval and Delgado! Let’s go Pirates!!

  • Between Jeremy Schneider’s piece yesterday that this will likely to happen but isn’t a done deal, and something I heard last night about Roc Nation having some reservations, it looks like there is some hope yet…

    Never painless for Seton Hall fans, is it?

    • shufaninva

      Would be nice if a phone call or text from TD was holding this thing up?
      Just dreaming, but it’s a nice dream.

  • shufaninva

    Would we have room for the 1 in a million shot of the new fab 5 saying yes to SHU?

  • Ben Suscavage

    Angel needs to play himself into a NBA 1st round draft pick next year. He has an opportunity to be Player of the Year in the Big East. —Terry Dehere, Patrick Ewing and Josh Hart won Player of the Year as seniors. Also, with him back SHU has a chance of being a Top 25 team, giving the team a lot of exposure and the possibility of winning a NCAA game/Run! Let’s go Pirates!!

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